Recently Comrade Trump had a radio interview with one of his media flunkies, Hugh Hewitt, during which he commented on his
possible probable inevitable indictment. He seemed to be balanced between denial that it will happen and making blustery threats about what to expect when it happens. He said,
“I don’t think the people are going to stand for it. […] But I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before. I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it. […] I think they’d have big problems, big problems. I just don’t think they’d stand for it. They will not, they will not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes.”
I suspect Trump is fantasizing his indictment will spark massive demonstrations across the nation, demonstrations that will turn violent. He’s probably imagining hundreds of mini-1/6 insurrections, in which his fans will rise up and terrorize the government into returning him to power. Fantasies of young, virile white guys wearing polo shirts carrying torches through the streets at night, chanting his name; white folks in camo with ALICE packs they bought on Amazon, holding Trump flags and storming the local city hall.
That, I suspect, is his fantasy. His actual hopes are probably smaller — like keeping enough power to bully GOP politicians and being able to continue scamming yobbos, gits, and idjits out of large chunks of their Social Security checks.
That said, Trump is probably sorta kinda right. There will be problems when he gets indicted. Because many of his fans are fucking QAnon lunatics. Sure, there’ll be protests and marches, but when Trump gets indicted, there’ll probably also be some incidents of stochastic terrorism. Some may be well-planned and organized, but most will likely be slipshod and stupid — like that already-forgotten fuckwit who decided to storm the FBI office in Cincinnati.
But yeah, there’ll be some violence. And yeah, some folks will get hurt. Some people may die. Which will give Comrade Trump a momentary jolt of dopamine, because he enjoys cruelty and loves the notion that there are people who’ll commit violence in his name. It may make him feel worthy for a short time. But it won’t change anything.
I’m confident Trump will be indicted eventually. I have no idea if he’ll ever face trial. If he faces trial, I’m not confident he’ll get an impartial jury. But if he does, I’m pretty certain an impartial jury would probably convict him. Even if he’s tried and convicted, it seems unlikely he’ll do any time. Not just because he’s former POTUS, but because he’s rich and old and in shitty health.
Among the many awful things Trump has done, is this: he’s made us all a bit more cruel too. Not just his fans and followers, who may be prone to cruelty anyway, but those of us who generally aren’t cruel by nature. Many ordinarily decent people will take perverse pleasure in Trump’s disgrace and humiliation.
I know I will. I’m not happy about that. I’m actually ashamed of it. But there it is.
Comrade Trump predicts/threatens big problems when he’s indicted? We already have big problems. He’s the source of many of them.
Speaking for myself, I will take great pleasure in his disgrace and humiliation, without any guilt or shame whatsoever. Immense pleasure. He’s a vile, self-serving, misogynistic, mendacious, divisive, cowardly, cruel, immoral bully, who has wreaked havoc directly on a country I’ve always admired, and indirectly on us all. People like him are the reason the human race suffers.
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He is all those things, and yes he’s done more damage to the US and democracy everywhere than we can understand at this point. But it still bothers me that I enjoy his suffering. One of the most despicable things about Trump and the MAGAverse is the joy they take in the suffering of others; I hate having something like that in common with them.
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Well, except that many of them enjoy the suffering of others principally because of the aforementioned self-serving, misogynistic, cowardly, cruel etc traits that they possess. If they were empathetic, rational, caring human beings, then you would be spared the paradox. I’m prepared to accept that some who live in the MAGAverse are good people misled, but I won’t extend that assessment to Trump. He’s a vicious, small-minded, cunning manipulator. He deserves to be called to account, and – in my opinion – made into an example. If that includes ridicule of what he is, and what he stands for, so much the better as far as I’m concerned.
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I don’t think we disagree in terms of what Trump deserves. It just bothers me somewhat that I will enjoy (and have enjoyed, and am right in the goddamn middle of enjoying) every humiliating moment of it.
For what it’s worth, I think you are comparing schadenfreude to sadism.
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My sentiments exactly!! … remember: you reap what you sow!! … “Among the many awful things Trump has done, is this: he’s made us all a bit more cruel too. Not just his fans and followers, who may be prone to cruelty anyway, but those of us who generally aren’t cruel by nature. Many ordinarily decent people will take perverse pleasure in Trump’s disgrace and humiliation.”
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