See, this is exactly what happens when you elect somebody whose arrogance is fueled by ignorance. You end up with a president who makes bad decisions about problems he doesn’t understand, without any awareness of the consequences.
As late as one hour before the decision was to be announced, administration officials privately expressed concern that Mr. Trump might not fully grasp the details of the steps he was about to take, and when he discovered their full impact, would change his mind, according to a person familiar with their thinking who spoke on the condition of anonymity without authorization to comment on it.
This particular quote from The New York Times is about Comrade Trump’s DACA decision, but it applies to just about every important decision he’s made in his time in office entire career. As a businessman, Trump was used to entering negotiations, telling folks what he wanted, then wandering off feeling self-satisfied while his crew of lawyers and managers banged out the details and tried to find ways to implement some/most of what Trump wanted. If it worked, Trump assumed it worked because he was a savvy negotiator; if it didn’t work, then it was the fault of his staff.
“Nobody understands the system better than me.” For Trump, the ‘system’ is this: “I want a thing done; somebody go do that thing.” He apparently thought that would work just as well in government. Obamacare? Crime? International trade? Immigration? North Korea? When Comrade Trump said “I alone can fix it” what he actually meant was “I’ll tell my people to handle it.”
I think Trump is legitimately surprised to discover that ‘his people’ can’t just handle stuff for him in government. I suspect he really assumed that if he told his people — in this case, the Republican Congress — he wanted a health care bill, that it would just happen. Remember this? “I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.” It’s NOT complicated if all you do is say “I want this thing done.” Remember when Comrade Trump had dinner with Chinese president Xi Jinping and suggested China should lean on North Korea to stop missile testing? I suspect he actually believe China would act as ‘his people’ and, you know, do something, after which missile testing would just stop.
For his entire life, I believe Trump has simply assumed ‘managing’ meant ‘giving orders’. If he wanted a tunafish sandwich, all he had to do was say “Fetch me a tunafish sandwich.” He didn’t have to think about the person whose job it was to make the sandwich. In fact, it probably never would have occurred to him that before the tunafish sandwich process could even begin somebody had to go out on a boat and catch a goddamn tuna.
A tuna is a massive fish. The average size of a bluefin tuna? Six and a half feet. Somebody has to catch the big bastards, somebody has to take them apart, somebody has to process them and jam them into a tiny can. Somebody has to make that can. Hell, somebody has to mine the metal necessary to make the can. Somebody has to take those cans of tuna from the processing plant and deliver them to markets. Somebody has to grow and harvest the wheat to make the bread for the sandwich.
If you bother with the details, you realize that making a tunafish sandwich is incredibly complex. A tunafish sandwich costs millions of dollars.
Comrade Trump has made a decision affecting the lives of 800,000 young men and women whose parents entered the U.S. without proper documentation with the same level of concern and attention that we give to ordering a tunafish sandwich at the local deli. That’s reprehensible.
Editorial Note: Yes, I know ‘tunafish’ is properly ‘tuna fish’. And yes, I know ‘tuna fish’ is redundant since there aren’t any non-fish tuna. But I like tunafish as one word, and there it is.
800,000 young men and women? Not true sir.
The current DACA that Trump is stopping allows illegals up to the age of 37 to stay. It also allows those with up to 4, yes 4 misdemeanors, to stay in the country and get prefered status to become citizens.
The day you open your door to your home to anyone who wants to live there, you have nothing to say about illegals living here in the this nation. The law was going to be thrown out by SCOTUS anyways and at least Trump was smart enough to realize this and is now forcing congresses hand to actually come up with a legally binding bill that can be turned into law. What Obama did was illegal.
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Congress has been refusing to consider this matter ever since the first DREAM Act was proposed in 2001. Is that going to change now?
As for DACA, it’s not unconstitutional (i.e., illegal). Controversial, sure. But the president has powers *granted by Congress*, and Obama used them, in part because Congress was not doing its job.
As for the misdemeanors, what percentage of those on DACA count in that category? I do not know the answer, but I suspect it’s very small. You’re crying wolf, sir, if that’s your focus here.
And sure, 800,000 (or almost). Why do you say that’s not true? Accounts I’ve read say that up to 1.7 million might be eligible to apply for DACA, and that as of June 2016, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) had received 844,931 initial applications for DACA status, of which 741,546 (88%) were approved, 60,269 (7%) were denied, and 43,121 (5%) were pending. Over half of those accepted reside in California and Texas.
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prefered status to become citizens
Nope, not so. Read the Act; it specifically does NOT provide lawful immigration status or a path to a green card or citizenship.
The law was going to be thrown out by SCOTUS anyways
Maybe. SCOTUS isn’t as predictable as it once was. But probably not. The suit brought by nine Republican state AGs hadn’t gotten that far yet, but if it had there are a bundle of questions to be adjudicated — and precedent in most instances support the Obama administration.
What Obama did was illegal.
Nope, not so. It’s possible SCOTUS might have found some facets of DACA in violation, but the law clearly allows the executive branch to act in situations like this. The only constitutional question is whether DACA overreached in some specific areas.
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Isn’t it amazing how some people know what the supreme court will do and only share their wisdom on the Internet, while others argue before the court (and other courts) NOT knowing what they will do? And isn’t it curious that those same people KNOW what is legal and not, without a day of law school or a minute holding elected office? The Internet, that series of tubes, is just aMAZing, I’ll tell you what.
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Also worth noting: nine Republican state Attorneys General were suing to stop DACA, and now that Trump has given that order 15 AGs (of both parties) are suing him to prevent him from ending DACA.
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I find myself intrigued by the DACA decision, finding flaw and promise in it all at once. Flaw at the apparent cruelty of the stroke, and the true cruelty of the man who performed it, and the promise that Congress is now under the spotlight to actually DO something about it.
In the end, it is the man’s cruelty that is his fatal flaw. Hard to suspect anything from him that has the interest of other people at heart, so I have to assume this is done from a place of malice, not philanthropy. Malice never sits well with me.
Even deeper than that, however, is the point from which that malice comes, as you so eloquently elucidated: it comes from a place of ignorance. He hasn’t the slightest inkling what he is doing, but he hears the cheers from his base when he does it. That sits with me even worse.
We didn’t just elect a monster, we elected an idiot one. Let’s hope this chapter runs short.
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I don’t think Trump is a monster. I think he’s just ignorant of his own privilege and generally incapable of any sort of spontaneous compassion for people he doesn’t know personally.
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After careful consideration, Greg, I stand by my “monster” assessment. ;)
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Let’s not forget that six years ago, he supported DACA. It’s bad enough that he’s wanting to ruin the lives of those that are contributing more to our society than quite a few American citizens but he’s doing it out of spite & out of a sense of blackmail towards Congress to get his stupid fucking wall that will never stop illegals since the majority either come by plane or have work visas & over stay. What he is doing to these people… is not okay. They took the steps to be a part of DACA, they are not able to receive welfare, they either work or they’re in school, they pay taxes plus $500 every two years and now their lives are being torn from them. Pretty fucking vile decision, if you ask me.
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he supported DACA. … he’s wanting to ruin the lives
I’m really starting to believe Comrade Trump doesn’t really want anything other than attention, that he doesn’t really support anything except the Trump brand. He doesn’t appear to have any actual core values or belief — not even negative ones. I don’t think he actually hates anybody, simply because you have to care about somebody’s existence in order to hate them.
I don’t think he ever supported DACA and I’m not convinced he opposes it now. I don’t think he has any real feelings about it either way, but will say whatever whatever gets him the sort of attention he craves at any particular moment. I don’t think he wants to ruin anybody’s life, because that would first require him to think about other people as real people.
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I agree! It’s that narcissistic, sociopath in him. Anything that doesn’t revolve around him is useless to him.
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I would have preferred a tunafish sandwich for president.
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